Is there anything that may help my poor girl overcome this fear?
..... No.... not really ... age maybe..... sit by her (not coddle) just to assure her ... cover her with a light throw or blanket .... that is the only thing that kept ladyR sane and
somewhat calm ... FOR 11 YEARS.
You will read below what all I did for MONSTER THUNDER.
BUT ... please
try the supplements and techniques below, every dog is different,
you just never know what might work for yours.
One valuable tip :
When you KNOW FOR SURE there is not going to be anymore thunder ...
FORCE her to go outside ... make sure you stay with her.
This will PROVE to her that the thunder is over and she will go back to
Theanine - ( starts working in minutes ), is natural www.puritan.com
Benedryl - sometimes this works great, depends on the dog.
Valium - liquid works real fast. (avoid the generic version)
Rescue Remedy - always good on some dogs
Baby Oil on cotton balls - dip part way, squeeze out excess, works very well ! !
Comfort Zone Pheromone diffuser - has proven to NOT work on thunder issues
Music for thunder fraidy cats.... by Sue Raimond 619-473-1213
Video tape this years Fireworks show on TV, use it whenever needed.
Keep a LOUD video movie on hand to put in when a storm is here
FIREWORKS - Afraid of B L O A T ?
Get some PHAYZYME 185mg GEL Caps at local drug store
Give him 3 gel caps in his breakfast, he probably won't eat dinner, so shove
3 more down him before the fireworks start.
Often using an Anxiety Wrap will allow him to sleep right through the storm.
Many people have noticed much improvement within
1 to 3 times of using the Anxiety Wrap.
( a drop or 2 on a bandana )
Mellow Out - http://www.oxyfreshww.com/pet/nutritionals.asp
Herbal, takes about an hour to take effect. St. John's Wort, Valerian, Melatonin, and Chamomile
Primorye GOLD www.oxysales.com
==== For MONSTER THUNDER
or FIREWORKS I use
1. Rescue Remedy at the first crack of thunder.
2. Close all curtains.
3. Increase volume of TV or music.
4. Place dog in the CENTER of the house - this equalizes the sounds and vibrations.
5. Have dog sit on a rubber mat - this will ground the dog from static in the
6. Silicone ear plugs - they can be softened by rolling into a ball, then
they will conform to the ear cavity. Available at most drug stores.
If not avail... cotton ball with baby oil on it will
deaden sound. <-- works for us
7. Then my Dane literally wears headphones used for target practice.
8. Crates are better, i admit, but mine are not crated...so we cover her with
a small blanket. If crate trained, drape a blanket over it.
9. If at all possible, provide and train dog to go into a small dark space,
such as a closet. I made room under my desk for my girl to lay in,
on her rubber backed mat ( lessens static) .
I blast the music. My foot touching her so she knows
I am there.
10. With EXTREME MONSTER THUNDER..... I give 5mg. valium (not generic), only
after all the above has been done, and the thunder itself is continuing
to be extreme and you know it will go on for hours.
For normal minor thunder....
1, 2, & 3 are all that are usually needed. I usually take advantage
of these times to massage, brush or trim nails....the girls are used to
the noise of the Dremel grinder so it balances the minor thunder.
As a side note.....Monster thunder has brought on bloat in my
girl.....even tho behavior mod has helped with normal thunder,
where we live experiences the monster variety, and has become
a problem of gigantic proportions due to the possibility of bloat.
I, personally will never consider the use of any drugs other than
Valium or Benedryl
I have also found that when I significantly improved the QUALITY (raw meat daily)
of my dog's diet.....I saw improvement in the fear ratio. Not alot, but some.
Ruby Ricciardi - FL, the home of Monster Thunder.
PHOTOS OF MY ladyR IN THUNDER MODE
(pls note the lack of terror in her eyes - there are baby oil cotton
in her ears + the target practice head phones = no terror)
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What does seem to work is simply misting the dog's coat
with water at the approach of a storm.
I used Turid's "yawn therapy" to help with a rescue Sheltie of mine who
freezes at the first drop of rain.
With the thunderbooms came the shakes and when I could pry him off
the ground he would try and bury himself into me.
I began his treatment with some Rock Rose, a Bach flower remedy, And
Mimulus, followed later by homeopathic Phosphorus at a 30C potency. My
husband and I yawned through an entire storm, and finally got this poor boy
to yawn back. Then I began to experiment with modalities, and soon learned
that he did better if I would completely cover him with a blanket. Changed
his body language for him. All these things, I think, have helped. It has
taken about a year and a half, but he is much, much better about it
now....He no longer freezes -- he may never ignore a storm but at least he
can function now during one, without turning into stone.
There is some anecdotal evidence indicating that electrical charge may
build up in the dog's coat and discharge at random, giving the dog a shock.
Many t-storm phobic dogs will curl up next to plumbing fixtures during a
storm - those surfaces conduct electricity away, "grounding" the dog as it were.
Many dogs happily ride out the storm when put into their owner's vehicle - again, a
What does seem to work is simply misting the dog's coat
with water at the approach of a storm.
Another remedy for fear of storms and fireworks or sudden noises, is the
homeopathic Phosphorus. Can be given before, during or after.
These animals are generally very happy and outgoing. Cases needing
Phosphorus feel better resting in the dark, likes cold food and water,
sometimes vomiting as soon as it warms in the stomach.
This remedy is a pile of contradictions!
Mary Wulff-Tilford has a liquid alcohol-free extract in her Animal's
Apawthacary called Tranquility Blend that you can squirt right into
the dog's mouth. It's glycerin based so it has a sweet taste which
makes it more palatable. It has valerian, skullcap, passion flower,
and Oatstraw. It seems to help. You may have to give more than one
The Vita Treat people came out with Pet Calm biscuits. They work
better than the pills because the dog chews them up. They may be a
little big for a daschund. If the storm isn't really a bad one,
these work for my pit bull. But forget it, if it's a really bad storm.
Ark Naturals has a product called Happy Travelers and theirs has Kava
(so I guess it's okay). St. John's Wort, Chamomile, Valerian and
Melatonin. It's a capsule so it would dissolve faster than the
tablets. There isn't enough melatonin in it to consider it a
melatonin with herbs product.
Green Hope Farm has a flower essence called Anxiety that's for
anxiety, nervous habits and obsessive behaviors such as excessive
licking or feather picking, fear of people or of being handled,
phobias, confused thinking, fear of loud noises including
thunderstorms, overactive watchdog behavior including pacing. This
is interesting because you can give it as a preventative. A couple
drops a day and hopefully if a storm comes the dog will no longer be
afraid. Which is nice if it works because then if there is a storm
and you aren't there, the poor dog isn't going nuts.
Whole Dog Journal had a 2-part article about noise phobias.
They suggest giving the dog a combination of 3 different flower
remedies 2-3 times a day. Like the Green Hope Farm flower essence
combination, it's supposed to help get rid of the dog's fear, not suppress the symptoms.
The article also mentions 3 or 4 nervine herbs that you can give on a
long term basis. Many of them are in Mary's tranqulity blend.
Hope this helps
The aggression also goes along with the sound phobias which
I also believe are caused by the distemper and rabies vaccinations.
*Eliminating grain has eliminated sound phobias in my Bullmastiffs
I found a product called "Therasticks", an anti-anxiety formula by
Pet Botanics made with Valerian Root Powder, St. John's Wort extract
& Chamomile Powder, that has really helped one of my Goldens with
thunderphobia. I give him 2 sticks a day when it looks like we might
be having some stormy weather and he chills right out. FMI on it you
can go to the website at: www.cardinalpet.com
Our old girl, Flashy, was terrified of storms. We tried every trick in the
book to help her. We were due to get hit by a hurricane and I didn't know
what to do as we never found anything to get her through without the
trembling, shaking, panting, just extreme stress, and with a hurricane on
the way, I was terrified myself that she would work herself into a bloat
after every vet in the area had been evacuated and the highways shut
down. My vet said try benedryl instead of valium this time. I gave her
two "bennies" (G) and she went out like a light for nearly 6 hours on the
couch. I swear she watched the Weather Channel because she knew WAAAY
before the pressure dropped, any noise or thunder for a couple hundred
miles. She also must have heard the warnings that tell you to go to an
"inside room" in the house, because she picked the bathroom in the middle
and if the storm was *real* bad, she would ride it out in the
bathtub. That was the only place she would hide. It had no windows and we
would turn on the fan, the lights, and play a radio and I even put ear
plugs in her ears. Nothing zonked her until the benedryl trick. Some dogs
just do not respond to anything you try when the get that frightened.
Several homeopathic remedies are available in many health food stores, including the following.
Phosphorus HPUS 30C:
Drop 3-5 pellets down back of dog's throat (without touching them yourself)
every 15 minutes until you see improvement in the dog's behavior, then stop.
Dosage may be repeated if necessary.
Aconitum Napellus 30C: Given in the same way Phosphorus is used.
Wrapping for storm fear?
They wrapped the dogs in ACE bandages and it was amazing.
Killian was wrapped in bandages too and also got to
wear a T-shirt (kid size 6-8). The T-shirt was very easy to put on and
worked very well. He just calms right down.
Maybe a T-shirt would work? They said to put it on backwards (human front
is the dog's back).
= = = = MELATONIN = = = =
Journal of the American Veterinary Medical Association, Volume 215, No. 1, July 1999. "Vet Med Today: Animal Behavior Case of the Month" was written by Linda Aronson, DVM, MA; from the Department of Clinical Studies, School of Veterinary Medicine, Tufts University, North Grafton, MA.
The following is an excerpt from an email sent by Dr. Aronson to one of our members, Rich Brady: "To treat thunderstorm phobia, I use a dose of 3mg for a 35-100 lb dog. Smaller dogs get 1.5 mg, and larger dogs may get 6mg. The dose is given either at first evidence of thunderstorm - dog becomes agitated, distant rumbling of thunder, etc. or prophylactically before the owner leaves the house when thunderstorms are predicted. Dose may be repeated up to 3 times daily. The latter may be used as a dose for animals with more generalized stress related disorders."
= = = = THEANINE = = = =
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